Episode 7

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16th Sep 2021

Philip Shouse Shares His Top 5 (S4 E7)

This week, Philip Shouse from the Gene Simmons Band, Ace Frehley, and Accept comes back to share his Top 5 Albums of all time and why they are special to him.

One of the things we keep hearing from guests like Philip is how hard it is to create these lists. It's one thing to pick your top 5 favorites, but a whole different thing to put them in order from 5 to 1 is even harder.

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We'd love to know what you're top picks are, go to the SOV Community and share them!

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Sounds on Vinyl is hosted by Mike Svensson and Phil Bowyer

Produced by BoozeHound Music in cooperation with BoozeHound Entertainment

Intro and Outro music by Grand Rezerva, courtesy BoozeHound Music

Intro and Outro voiceover by Kate Bowyer

Transcript
bowyer]:

Hey, hey, welcome to the sounds on final show. My name is Phil Boyyer, and as

bowyer]:

always from across the vast open sea is my brother from another mother, Mr.

bowyer]:

Mike, Fence and Mike. How the hells are going over there in Sweden?

svensson]:

Oh, it's really good it. we got summerime. Still. so so I'm a happy

svensson]:

Cmper. about that. I don't like the cold at all.

svensson]:

No, I was born in the one country so'll say

shouse]:

You live in the wrong place.

bowyer]:

Uh,

svensson]:

yeah.

bowyer]:

yeah, I. I actually had a dream last night that I woke up and it was We had

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like five inches of snow on the ground,

svensson]:

Oh man, don't go there.

bowyer]:

so I, I know snow is one of your favorite things to over there, So

svensson]:

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I, I cannot believe that people would pay to go

svensson]:

skiing and know that's not for me. No,

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so so listen, we we got. Um, we got a special guest.

bowyer]:

we do

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another one,

bowyer]:

another one.

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but

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another one, but

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we're going back to M. Philip Houseows, Hey, man's going

shouse]:

I'm doing awesome guys. How are you? good to see again?

svensson]:

we. we

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are doing great. Yeah,

bowyer]:

Awesome, yeah,

svensson]:

Phil Phliis is his missing winter. So is

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no

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Talk about summer

shouse]:

Talk about summer

bowyer]:

no,

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talk

bowyer]:

summer.

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about?

shouse]:

than hell

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Yeah.

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here. so

svensson]:

yeah,

bowyer]:

there you go

svensson]:

shit. okay, so we're doing Uh, something different, Uh on on this

svensson]:

episode where we, we invited Philip once again to pick his top five

svensson]:

albums of all time,

bowyer]:

all time.

svensson]:

So it's gonna. Yeah,

shouse]:

not an not an easy task. This was really

bowyer]:

No,

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hard.

svensson]:

not any ask.

bowyer]:

right,

svensson]:

Okay. So are you good to go, because I, I, I'm so anxious to to see what

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you picked, so just jump right into.

shouse]:

Yeah, so we short of the top. The only one I have in

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

order is number one. The other ones are just

svensson]:

Yeah,

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two through five. Can't I can't put those in any

svensson]:

me.

shouse]:

order. I just can't do it. I try. it's impossible

svensson]:

yeah,

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okay.

shouse]:

for gold,

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So what you got for us? What's the first one? Yeah, anywhere,

shouse]:

so it to start from anywhere from two. not not number one. Uh,

bowyer]:

yeah,

svensson]:

know anywhere you want?

shouse]:

okay, because I've got okay since I've got two Beatles albums on this on this

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short list will start with one of them a rubber soul.

svensson]:

Yeah? yeah,

bowyer]:

okay,

svensson]:

okay,

bowyer]:

yeah,

shouse]:

Um, It was tough to.

shouse]:

It was tough to not fill all five with

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yeah,

shouse]:

Beatles records, which I could have easily done.

shouse]:

Um,

shouse]:

but rubber sold to me because I'm a such a huge fan of the early period as

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well, a lot of people kind of shy, a shy away from which I don't understand

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because it's It's fucking genius. Um, it's the beles, Uh, but I love that one

shouse]:

because it was just when they were it. Revolver is even more towards the new

shouse]:

later, like you know, late Sixties sound, and Rubber Soul is kind of the one

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that's right in between

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what they were going to be and what they had been. I mean every record is

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different. You know. Every record with them is completely different and they

shouse]:

grew every time they push boundaries with every single album and this one I

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love

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because it's right when they were just about to. You know.

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Two records from then was completely different two years from then, which is

shouse]:

insane to think about that what they were doing every year.

shouse]:

Um,

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm, Yeah,

svensson]:

yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

So, and it's this one's so cool because when I got my Hokner bass, Uh, like

shouse]:

last year. I think E or La early this year. I just got one 'cause my friend

shouse]:

Uh, was selling one. I bought one for Michael Wagner. He was selling Uh, all

shouse]:

his guitars and I went and bought his pocket. And um, so this for fun from my

shouse]:

own, I was starting to pick out Beatles Bay lines, 'cause Mccartney's my hero

shouse]:

and everything. Um, and so I s wentli for a lot of rubber soul stuff. And it

shouse]:

was really. It hit me this what the album title meant. It is their soul in r

shouse]:

and B album completely, Especially if you listen to the bass and you weren't

shouse]:

all those baselines. It is like you're playing motow songs

svensson]:

yeah. yeah. Paul Mccartney is a great bass player.

shouse]:

and it's he got so much from Jamerson and from all that stuff. And like when

shouse]:

you

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

listen to it and you isolate the bass. you're like you're playing. Uh, drive

shouse]:

my car. Do I'm done Di, or it, don't dit to it. It's like respect. it's just

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

like

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

Wow, this is. really. it's it's You can tell

svensson]:

that's so cool.

shouse]:

how much and how hard they were listening to that stuff at that time 'cause

shouse]:

it. really. all that stuff reflects what they were doing. That's a big one.

shouse]:

So,

svensson]:

Yeah, but

svensson]:

you play bass with them

svensson]:

with Ace Freeley, right.

shouse]:

right, Yeah,

svensson]:

yeah. so so but you start out playing guitar or was it

shouse]:

started up on guitar and then started

svensson]:

yeah?

shouse]:

playing based on. by necessity. Really, I took the bass gig just because when

shouse]:

I counted when we got when we got the ace when we got the Ace tour, I

shouse]:

countered four guitar players. I'm like. Well, that's not going to work. so I

shouse]:

just kinded I when I did it Because Mccartney, when, when it came time that

shouse]:

have a bass player

shouse]:

Paul went. I guess I'll do it 'cause John and George Bu went. I'm not playing

shouse]:

pass and then so Paul, I said like I'll do it and I'm really glad I did

shouse]:

because I love. I really, really, really love playing bass. Um,

svensson]:

yeah?

shouse]:

and it's fun playing

shouse]:

Uh, all those old Kiss tunes Because Jean was such a Mccartney guy and I

shouse]:

learned a

svensson]:

yeah, yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

lot by watching Gene play. not knowing that I was going to be the bass player

shouse]:

for you know, his ex bandmte. Um, I did learn a lot by watching him and and

shouse]:

most of the band. Most of the music that we talked about with Jee was the

shouse]:

Beatles and so you know, his baselines are very, very walkcky Mccartney r and

shouse]:

B type. so it all goes together. You know very well,

svensson]:

yeah, yeah, especially the later ones. I know. I'm a big huge fan of

svensson]:

Unmasked

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

So and he does? I. I don't think he plays all the base on on that one,

svensson]:

but still you can hear it

shouse]:

y.

svensson]:

when when he's is going off, it's

shouse]:

but even like, even like strotter,

svensson]:

yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah. now that you say it, yeah,

shouse]:

that is one of them his best and co gin is cool. Um,

svensson]:

yeah, you' right.

shouse]:

they always had really

shouse]:

fun

shouse]:

moving bass lines. He was not like a stick on the root type bass player. He

shouse]:

was always walking around and all, I can't really think of one off handd that

shouse]:

isn't like that. That isn't moving and really like we didn' listen to it

shouse]:

like. well, that's pretty fuck and clever. You know. it's really good. he's

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

He

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

doesn't give himself enough credit and I think how good a musician and how

shouse]:

good a Bas player he is.

svensson]:

No. but, but I, I'm guessing that's not the way he thinks he. He just

svensson]:

wanted wants the the song to be good,

shouse]:

exactly

svensson]:

and he, if for him, it doesn't care who who plays what.

shouse]:

Ex, exactly he played

svensson]:

So, yeah,

shouse]:

guitar. I, I learned it on a lot of the Kiss stuff. Um, he would play of his

shouse]:

songs like he'd play guitar, and sometimes the ace would play bass. Um, I

shouse]:

know on you know, and you can hear. You can tell. now I can watchj.

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

Jean's playing guitar on Doctor Love. that's him.

svensson]:

yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

He's playing guitar and got love for sale, you know, and a lot of his tunes.

shouse]:

he's playing guitars. You can kind of hear him because he's got. there's not

shouse]:

really any finesse. It went on

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

and he would tell you that he's like I've got caveman hands, you know, and he

shouse]:

kind like theren ba, you know, but you can kind of hear it now. Um, and on a

shouse]:

lot of that stuff he didn't play bass. On some he did. Um, but some of it,

shouse]:

you know, he'd get Ace to do some. And yeah, he just wanted to be right. He

shouse]:

didn't care

shouse]:

who. So' you know, not

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

really a big ego when it came to that stuff. He's wells

svensson]:

no, no,

shouse]:

a salary Better, you know, he really didnt come

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

out the music first.

svensson]:

yeah,

bowyer]:

Mhm,

svensson]:

that's really cool. Oh wow. So so wherere out the boxes right now?

svensson]:

Robert Soul right there with the Beatles. That so cool.

shouse]:

Yep,

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So

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what's up next?

shouse]:

uh, let's do um again in no order. but this is just two. three, five, uh,

shouse]:

Airsmith rocks,

svensson]:

Yeah?

bowyer]:

Okay, there you go.

shouse]:

which that people normally go to toys or rocks for one of their favorite

shouse]:

errors with albums. But rock is one of my favorite of all the time. It's

shouse]:

absolutely

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

perfect.

svensson]:

that's

shouse]:

It's just you

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a good one right there.

shouse]:

and it's always cool to put

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you know a a band that you like or an album that you really really like in

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the time.

shouse]:

So you're like you know nineteen seventy six. You have the who you have. The

shouse]:

Stones, If you have the example, you had humble pie, You had kiss, you had

shouse]:

wings. You know, you had all the Deep Purple. You had all these things

shouse]:

happening

shouse]:

and it's so cool to listen And it was cool. It was all rock and roll, but it

shouse]:

was all different. There was room for everything

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

and Aosmith at this at those two records. In this one in particular, It's so

shouse]:

it. It's so unique sounding. It doesn't sound like any other band or any

shouse]:

other recording

shouse]:

around that time. It sounds so different. It sounds so different that I

shouse]:

can't. I have a hard time telling what kind of guitars an ampsta played. They

shouse]:

just sound like Joe and Brad.

shouse]:

You know

svensson]:

Yeah. yeah. yeah.

shouse]:

what I mean? it's not like. Is it's part

svensson]:

of course.

shouse]:

of Marsll, That's a strat that the defender, you know it. It's they don't

shouse]:

have that. There's all this like.

shouse]:

What is that? What even is that and using cool instruments like the the six

shouse]:

string bass on Back in the saddle, Every song on that has a cool

shouse]:

different thing in it.

shouse]:

And um,

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

and and we, I was in a thing that we did. We learned the record and played it

shouse]:

top the bottom in order.

shouse]:

A lot of those guitar parts should not sound right together. because they'

shouse]:

they. They completely clash.

shouse]:

and

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

I'm not sure who I know N I got to ask night Bob more questions about this

shouse]:

'cause not Bob's out with this with today's fily. He's up front the house, so

shouse]:

he was.

svensson]:

Oh cool. Oh man.

shouse]:

He was aerirspths guy. During this whole period, he was in the recording of

shouse]:

his

shouse]:

album. I don't know who helped arrange the stuff, but the arrangements are

svensson]:

yeah. I know. Yeah. all right.

shouse]:

completely out of like

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regular text, Bookook, rock and roll arranging and the writing too. It's so

shouse]:

unique and it's so special

shouse]:

and like it's just so great and it sounds so awesome And every song on it is

shouse]:

just.

svensson]:

yeah. I. I mean,

shouse]:

it's

svensson]:

you got some real classics. I mean back in the Satdle,

shouse]:

every. every note is in place and it's recorded

svensson]:

Yeah,

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correctly and it sounds right and it's performed right and it's like there's

shouse]:

not an out of no

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noise or out of place noise on that whole album.

svensson]:

wing, the salies, Actually one of my all time favorite evers. make

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

songs. I mean, it's

shouse]:

and that one.

svensson]:

man, old man.

shouse]:

it just it's just cooks. The whole time and that's pretty much yard birds

shouse]:

rave up at the end. I mean it,

svensson]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can hear influences. Yeah,

shouse]:

it that may love that stuff. That one combination is is one of my outside

shouse]:

greatest with. But they you got get the let out um wick in a promise. you

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

know it. Just

svensson]:

yeah, man,

shouse]:

it doesn't sick as a dog, which is not one of my favorite airsma'

svensson]:

a dog. Yeah,

shouse]:

stngs all the time, And it just doesn't stop.

svensson]:

no,

bowyer]:

Yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

And it's I didn't really realize it. Jeremy can attest to this 'cause meet me

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and Jeremy Asbrock ro on the thing together and we were listening to

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

this stuff and figuring out going this is this is right. This is what they

shouse]:

this stuff and figuring out going this is this is right. This is what they

shouse]:

played. But this should not

shouse]:

played. But this should not

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work,

shouse]:

you know, And it's just so out there and it's just so creative. It really is

shouse]:

one of the most creative rock albums I think by

shouse]:

anybody, and the cover is amazing, too. It's like the Five diamonds.

svensson]:

yeah, I think so. too. yeah. all right.

svensson]:

yeah, it is it is.

svensson]:

I mean you talk about this on on and when you' on last

svensson]:

with us,

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Asmith was a huge part of your life since your brother

shouse]:

Yep,

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was into As as well and you discovered a rock role through There

shouse]:

Yeah,

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is there.

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Did he have

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some of the favourite ones that he picked up and said, You will go with

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this first

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he had,

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kind of lad, You on?

shouse]:

so this is probably in. I sort of digging around in seventy eight or seventy

shouse]:

nine. I'm three and four on those years, so he had everything up until like

shouse]:

live bootlegs. So he had the first five and for some reason

shouse]:

I, I think toys in the attic was because it had toys on the cover. I'm three

shouse]:

years old, you know, and then these rocks I remember looking at that picking

shouse]:

it up like this is. I don't understand it,

shouse]:

but it's really cool. I don't know why I'm three years old and I'm attracted

shouse]:

this. and then you took it out and then it had the cartoon of them on the big

shouse]:

gatefold, Um. so that was fascinating to me. The drawing. It was such a cool

shouse]:

drawing of them on stage and then you foot they over and then it had the

shouse]:

little Mindy pictures, the montage of all the tiny bollings of them on stage

shouse]:

off stage. Just you know being an Aersmith, and you know I, I stared at that

shouse]:

thing forever, so I remember very vividly. Um, one of my, probably my first.

shouse]:

I don't remember a lot as a kid when I was so really young and small. But

shouse]:

this I remember. for sure, Like listening to that with headphones on just

shouse]:

staring,

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literally glued

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to this to to the to the sleeve the record sleep, just staring at it and look

shouse]:

at at every picture over and over again To listening to it and just it just

shouse]:

sounds. It's just one of those things. It's just you know. I'm lot of

shouse]:

nostalgia for me too, but good God, what an awesome album.

svensson]:

Yeah? yeah, really.

shouse]:

You know. It's cheerst mind blowing. Still. It's like so creative and it's so

shouse]:

unique sounding. still,

svensson]:

I mean those first records. Those are like the bluepnt print. The Bro

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and

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roll right there. I mean twice in the at rock, as we mention an man.

shouse]:

Yeah, and

shouse]:

copied by a lot. but

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

not match. I mean you really can't. it's. it's just such a. I mean, the they

shouse]:

had the They took the Stones prototype, two guitars, you know, We singer, and

shouse]:

that kind of thing. Uh, but the sound of it and you know, in a we, you know,

shouse]:

of course they liked all the the good had all the good influences Stones

shouse]:

Beatles. you know, De Partk Five and Yarnbrds all that stuff. but they just

shouse]:

turned it into and it's cool when you listen to the first one and it's just

shouse]:

it's

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

straight blues rock record. It's great,

shouse]:

but

svensson]:

it is. it is.

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

way went into. I mean it when it turned into. I, I think it culminated with.

shouse]:

They're all great. I mean I. I. I love. You know a lot of their O, a lot of

shouse]:

their all of their albums, but I think rock is just like. It's such a special

shouse]:

special album and a special time. They weren't too fucked up yet. Um, they

shouse]:

could still. You know. it was really thinging. They were kind of getting ins

shouse]:

and stuff at the time and they could still perform and function really well.

shouse]:

Um, and man, and if you did, did you guys know about the ▁lyrics, Stephen

shouse]:

Towler, leaving the ▁lyrics in the cab?

svensson]:

No.

bowyer]:

No. No.

shouse]:

You had to rewrite the entire record.

svensson]:

What

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He had he had. I think he had it. It was either done or it was almost done.

shouse]:

He had every all the ▁lyrics of all the songs written in this big book and he

shouse]:

left it in a Ca.

shouse]:

So

bowyer]:

Oh, Jeez,

shouse]:

so it was he had to rewrite the and rewrite the entire album. All the ▁lyrics

shouse]:

of the album. This, I mean, the songs were already though the music was done.

shouse]:

but I mean rewrite the the ▁lyrics for the for the songs. So yeah, so who

shouse]:

knows what was in that that he forgot

bowyer]:

yeah, yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

and didn't And you know he had to rewrite something different. I, I think

shouse]:

and didn't And you know he had to rewrite something different. I, I think

shouse]:

you. I think he wrote pretty cool stuff. Whatever it was. it's It's some of

shouse]:

you. I think he wrote pretty cool stuff. Whatever it was. it's It's some of

shouse]:

awesome awesome ▁lyric and melodities in there. So

shouse]:

awesome awesome ▁lyric and melodities in there. So

bowyer]:

wow.

svensson]:

would would love to be that that cab?

shouse]:

yeah, and it's never turned up. It's ever turn like an

shouse]:

auction's like I got the missing ▁lyrics. That you'd some. You'd think they'd

svensson]:

No, it's crazy.

shouse]:

turn up on some S. high dollar, you know, music auction, rock and roll

shouse]:

auction or something.

svensson]:

Yeah. yeah.

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

oh

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man, for

shouse]:

yeah, that's

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in a ca.

shouse]:

even crazier when they got it done. It's like. well, I guess I got to start

shouse]:

over.

bowyer]:

oh, man,

svensson]:

Oh man. So

svensson]:

were. Oh, were' happening right now, Robert Soan meets rocks. So what's

svensson]:

up next?

shouse]:

Um,

svensson]:

Were you taking us?

shouse]:

uh, I'm gonna do. Let's see the rest of my albums are kind of very well put

shouse]:

together albums And I wanted to pick one that just sounded like a band

shouse]:

playing in the room, And that's Van Han one,

bowyer]:

H. Oh, yeah,

svensson]:

Yeah?

shouse]:

and that's just that's another one. That you know it. It sounds like the

shouse]:

future and it's it will. It will always sound like the future. It will. It'

shouse]:

never have. like. Oh yeah, that sounds like the Seventies. It's like it

shouse]:

sounds like

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

it doesn't matter what year you're in. It never sounds dated. Um, it. Just

shouse]:

those guys were just playing in the room. That's what they sounded like

shouse]:

playing.

shouse]:

you know,

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

And that's I picked

svensson]:

it's crazy

shouse]:

one. and because the rest of, like, the rest of them were very produced. Put.

shouse]:

Well, I mean, Ted and Don put his put their stamps on it for sure, but that's

shouse]:

kind of what they sounded like playing life, which is amazing when you think

shouse]:

about a band that could just do that. You know,

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

svensson]:

crazy.

bowyer]:

Yeah, that's a great record.

shouse]:

I think they were. I can't think of who was. I know Dave was oldest. I think.

shouse]:

Um, but I know Eddie was twenty one when they were cutting that record

svensson]:

Oh man.

shouse]:

and a lot of the songs. If you know Van Halen, you know they had

shouse]:

you when they were doing demos in seventy six to seventy seven. They had a

shouse]:

lot of the songs written that went through.

shouse]:

You know what even went

shouse]:

went went through, Um, different kind of truth, you know they.

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

they all. They kind of went back and found old cool rifts. Um. so they had

shouse]:

all those songs written when, like you know, some of all, but Eddie was a

shouse]:

teenager.

shouse]:

Um. on the restless.

svensson]:

Did you mention anything about Van Helen be cause he was there wing in

svensson]:

in the middle of it,

shouse]:

What's that? Oh, yeah? yeah, yeah, he.

svensson]:

Jean. Yeah, did he mention anything as he talked about it?

shouse]:

yeah, he talked about. Yeah, whenever whenever you wear Van Han shirt around

shouse]:

him, he'd go. You know I discovered Van Helen,

shouse]:

and he'd tell you the story of him seeing them at the Charwood, Uh, he took

shouse]:

Bby. Buell, Actually ruing him and Bby with Um and saw,

shouse]:

uh, saw Ban Halen.

shouse]:

And you know then then you know, try to get him a deal and you know really

shouse]:

was pretty fair about the thing he said. If I can't do anything, I'll tear it

shouse]:

up, But he got you know. He took him to New York and they did demos, And you

shouse]:

know he tried to get him with a coin, but didn't look out, But um, yeah, Jean

shouse]:

saw it and he the next day he took Paul and he took to see it and then Paul

shouse]:

was just like Good God, you know, it had to be. It

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

had to be like

shouse]:

seeing that. it had to be just like you. What am I looking at, You know to

svensson]:

Yeah, yeah. yeah.

shouse]:

see that, Get them in a club doing that and seeing Eddie play that way, And

shouse]:

you know Ted

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

Templeman says that he. he put ad in the Charlie Parker

shouse]:

category when he saw and play. It's like this guy's this. This is not rock

shouse]:

guitar. This isn't even like. this is otherwldly. You know Tad saw it, Um,

shouse]:

and so, uh yeah, and that first record just has so much

shouse]:

energy. It's like when you listen to it, it sounds like it sounds like the

shouse]:

sound is coming out of the walls

shouse]:

and like the

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

paint on. Uh, it doesn't sound like its came of these speakers. And I can't

shouse]:

think of another album that said that has that in it. It just sounds like

shouse]:

it's

shouse]:

really just surrounds you and it's just like

svensson]:

now there' special.

svensson]:

Yeah.

shouse]:

it it. It sounds like coming out of the air.

shouse]:

It's really amazing.

svensson]:

I wonder if Pauling, I wonder if Paul and Je felt like Oh, we're in

svensson]:

trouble now.

shouse]:

I know well recently with Paul twed that thing about Dave, and said, I saw

shouse]:

'em and then went. There's a new sheriff in town 'cause they did. They did

shouse]:

change everything

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

you know, 'cause they, you know, when they were open for Black Sabbath in

shouse]:

seventy nine, all the guys in Sabbath were. Go. still they go. They killed us

shouse]:

every night

shouse]:

'cause

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

it's funny when you look at that like Sabbath had only been a band for ten

shouse]:

years, but they were in seventy eight. seventy nine. They were considered

shouse]:

dinosaurs. You know, So was

svensson]:

yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah.

shouse]:

▁zeppelin. This bloated rock

shouse]:

machine, you know you're like W. Wow. Really, 'cause Palk had already

shouse]:

happened. It was like it was a lot of things were. It was moving and fast

shouse]:

forward compared to. now you know, Rock and roll was a you know, a, a snotty

shouse]:

nosed teenager at that point, And so

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

things were really really happening very fast and changing very quickly. And

shouse]:

so you know

shouse]:

you had those guys and you had the stones, which at that were extra

shouse]:

dinosaurs, 'cause they were around just the you know early sixties, and then

shouse]:

you had Boston and Foreigner and things like that which I love, and it was

shouse]:

considered very corporate rock.

shouse]:

and it it's funny to listen to to interviews with the Van Halen guys, But

shouse]:

when they talk about that time when they were getting signed, they kind of

shouse]:

say rock and roll was dead,

shouse]:

'cause it

bowyer]:

Hm,

shouse]:

was vaed. Everything

svensson]:

Oh,

shouse]:

was very disco, heavy and and and

bowyer]:

yeah,

shouse]:

dance music heavy, and and that movement was kind of happening, and nobody

shouse]:

knew how long that was goingnna last.

shouse]:

So

shouse]:

Van Halen is kind of credited with one of the groups, or maybe the main group

shouse]:

that brought back rock and roll and gave it a shot in the arm where it was.

shouse]:

You know, very, very exciting. and

shouse]:

um, you know,

svensson]:

and you can hear it just all about.

shouse]:

I mean, I don't think, I mean, I look at music back then I, I'm still like.

shouse]:

Wow, there was a lot of great stuff, but apparently it had taken a di. You

shouse]:

know, if you were

shouse]:

around

bowyer]:

hm,

svensson]:

Yeah. yeah,

shouse]:

then it's always different when you're living in it. you know. Wouldn'tb

shouse]:

walking back? you know, I can't. I

svensson]:

yeah, of course,

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

don't have like a really good gauge, but it's always kind of interesting

shouse]:

don't have like a really good gauge, but it's always kind of interesting

shouse]:

looking at how they they see like nineteen, seventy seven, seventy eight is

shouse]:

looking at how they they see like nineteen, seventy seven, seventy eight is

shouse]:

like a dead time for rock and roll. you know,

shouse]:

like a dead time for rock and roll. you know,

svensson]:

yeah. But it's it's sort like when, when you, when you hear Van Hale,

svensson]:

and and you listen to the interviews, it's they were in it for the

svensson]:

music. they didn't. I. I'm guessing that they didn't. I mean Edin Halen,

svensson]:

his. his. Yeah, will, his ad in Halen. But but it's the fame that was

svensson]:

like on a different level, cause I, I was watching Jerry Trail from

svensson]:

Alison Jains, He talked about Eddie right right after he passed, and he

svensson]:

said Well, Eddie was a sweetheart. We were struggling and I, I didn't

svensson]:

have my have any gear and said, Wow, it's cool. I'll hook you up and he

svensson]:

was staying at A at a friend's house, and all of a sudden, Uh, he went

svensson]:

went and tour with Allson Janes, And then he came back and I said the

svensson]:

guy who was living with. I say you, You got to move your stuff out of my

svensson]:

out of my garage. What he mean stuff? And and they rolled it up and it

svensson]:

was filled with equipment, guitars amplifiers. And so so who's this

svensson]:

from? Yeah, it's from Edvan

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

Helen. What?

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

So he? he? He just put everything in there in this tighty little

svensson]:

garage. And and and yeah, he said Well, that was Eddie.

shouse]:

and I right after his.

shouse]:

Yeah, after his passing, I, I still have to edit the show together, but I

shouse]:

added. Um. I interviewed some guitar player friends. I know that actually

shouse]:

knew him and had stories. I interviewed. Um. Sak and Scotty from Skidro, Um,

shouse]:

Damon Johnson interviewed him and they all have the same stories. said. Yep,

svensson]:

Yeah.

shouse]:

Eddie gave a gear. It's

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

like the way he did it'. like. Oh, I'll seeen you

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

some stuff. it' like he sent him himself. He, he always, he, never, like you

shouse]:

know, backed out of it or never came through on that. He would always do that

shouse]:

for people and he didn't like. He was very kind of reclusive. He didn't like

shouse]:

parties and stuff he wanted. He wanted to sit in his room and and play

shouse]:

guitar. That's what he

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

liked to do, and that's what he wanted to do with chord music. And he, once

shouse]:

he had the studio, put you on fifty studio. He just recorded all the time.

shouse]:

you know, there's just tapes and

svensson]:

that's so cool.

shouse]:

tapes and tapes and tapes and tapes and tapes of all kinds of stuff, So yeah,

shouse]:

the, I mean, I. it was hard to pick a Van Halen record To be honest, Um with

shouse]:

the. The first one was the first one that I heard, and it's still really

shouse]:

special and it still has this thing that a first album has, and in in

shouse]:

particular their first album has that

svensson]:

Yeah. yeah. I know.

shouse]:

no other record has that kind of just electric. just

shouse]:

blastic energy off

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

off the out of the speakers or off the

svensson]:

Yeah.

shouse]:

Bnl or out of the C. D. Whatever you're listening to it, you know, and it

shouse]:

sounds

svensson]:

a classic.

shouse]:

great and it. still. it sounds very a phone speaker.

shouse]:

You know.

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

That's the amazing about it when it sounds more

svensson]:

yeah,

bowyer]:

it does.

shouse]:

on on A. It still sounds liked Van Hills guitar through a phone speaker, you

shouse]:

know, and that's

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

it's a. that's amazing.

svensson]:

that's amazing

bowyer]:

Mhm.

svensson]:

right there. How cool. So okay we. We're getting close. So what you got

svensson]:

for us next?

shouse]:

Uh, let's do so. My other, uh, My last of the non number one group is is uh,

shouse]:

▁zeppelin two.

bowyer]:

Hm,

svensson]:

Oh? oh

bowyer]:

Okay, yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

And it's it's another one that I kind of w. w listened to early on and uh,

shouse]:

Apparently I listen to it as a really young young young kid 'cause my

shouse]:

brother. I remember seeing that covered as well then when I got some C Ds. As

shouse]:

a teenager that was one of the ones I got, and like you started, and from the

shouse]:

first breath

shouse]:

before a lot of love. I was like, Oh my God,

svensson]:

yeah. yeah,

shouse]:

I haven't heard that. I must have listened to it as a three and four year old

shouse]:

and not since then. I didn't know what that was because everything sounded

shouse]:

familiar

shouse]:

and that's a

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

cool thing, too. It's like

svensson]:

it is. it is.

shouse]:

Oh, wow, and um

shouse]:

again, every song,

shouse]:

Um, is just incredible and that and it, and for the time

shouse]:

you know, when they were recording it in sixty nine and it was their second

shouse]:

album that year, You know.

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

In sixty,

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

This someone, come on sixty eight, sixty nine.

svensson]:

uh,

shouse]:

I, I get.

svensson]:

sixy nine, I think.

shouse]:

so I think it

bowyer]:

Yeah, nine,

shouse]:

was something two out. Get't here. So yeah, they were doing two albums in a

shouse]:

year, and they were recording this one on the road. Is you can see them on

shouse]:

that tour all holding tapes,

shouse]:

and um to be a piecemealed album like that, and

shouse]:

also like,

shouse]:

I remember hearing some interviews with Plant and he was talking about doing

shouse]:

the vocal tracks and he'd have to go ah, right before the guitar because it

shouse]:

was on was on the same track as the guitar 'cause they'll probably de it.

shouse]:

They're probably dealing with eight track at this point.

shouse]:

Um,

shouse]:

and uh, so he would have to do his scream like right before the guitar,

shouse]:

because he couldn't record over the guitar and just how they recorded it and

shouse]:

how well it's recorded it. Just

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

it again. It still sounds better than things today.

svensson]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

bowyer]:

Yeah, Yeah, it does,

shouse]:

and it's just in incredible. How well P. what a great producer Page Page

shouse]:

really really was and produced.

svensson]:

yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

He knew exactly what he wanted that man to sound like, And it's it's just

shouse]:

amazing.

bowyer]:

Mhm,

svensson]:

and even a without

svensson]:

the the Robert Loudwig monstering, you've heard about that one?

shouse]:

Oh, was it the one that that the bass jumped out of the? Yeah,

svensson]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking for that. That's a Holy Gil.

shouse]:

That's a ho. That's a hard way to find on vinyl. I've got a

svensson]:

it is.

shouse]:

digital copy of that I have in my

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

vi tenency. You can't really think. but

svensson]:

Oh

shouse]:

yeah, yeah, the first master took Bas. If it's still the Ba, if there's so

shouse]:

much bass on it. still,

shouse]:

Um, the album that is just incredible.

svensson]:

yeah. yeah. yeah. have you hear? Have you heard it on vinyl? Have you

shouse]:

I've never heard that one on Finalnyl,

svensson]:

that that?

svensson]:

No, me, neither, me

shouse]:

No,

svensson]:

neither or so.

bowyer]:

Mhm,

svensson]:

I'm im. I'm still looking for that one, but it's a great sounding album

svensson]:

altogether. But, oh man, to be able to to see what? What freaked those

shouse]:

Oh, god,

svensson]:

guys at Atlantic, I mean, you've heard a story right

svensson]:

on on when when the label manager he heard that he is, I think it was

svensson]:

his niece or daughter. one of those like Kitty players

shouse]:

yeah,

svensson]:

and she put it on and the needle jumped

svensson]:

right out of there. Oh, you got to domaster. This. It's crazy. You can't

svensson]:

put this out.

shouse]:

oh, that's

svensson]:

Um,

shouse]:

amazing. it was.

svensson]:

it is. it is.

shouse]:

That was probably the first record that

shouse]:

I, I went. Oh, that's a bass guitar or that's what a bass guitar can do.

shouse]:

Probably

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

I can't think of anything before

shouse]:

that that I really was like. Wow,

svensson]:

such a genius.

shouse]:

you

shouse]:

know,

svensson]:

Yeah,

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

and it really does sound my, and then on headphones all the panning and stuff

shouse]:

that

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

Theyre not there.

shouse]:

Theyre not there.

svensson]:

yeah, yeah, it.

shouse]:

You know. it's so cool. You know.

bowyer]:

yeah,

svensson]:

yeah, it is.

shouse]:

that's stuff. but you know, I don't even know people do that anymore with

shouse]:

that's stuff. but you know, I don't even know people do that anymore with

shouse]:

records. You know. it's just

shouse]:

records. You know. it's just

svensson]:

No, and they, they were also like like Asmth. I think ahead of that time

shouse]:

yeah,

bowyer]:

Mhm,

svensson]:

doing doing the music like that. I mean to.

svensson]:

doing doing the music like that. I mean to.

shouse]:

just really, and then A. again. When you think about when this came out, the

shouse]:

Beatles were still together.

svensson]:

Yeah. it's crazy.

shouse]:

you know their Um. Abbey Road

bowyer]:

Wow,

shouse]:

was going to come out that same year

shouse]:

and it's cool when you listen to like. it was really splintering off. Now

shouse]:

it's like there was this really

svensson]:

Mhm.

shouse]:

heavy area that music was going. Sabbath was a banded at this

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

time too, And Dee Purple was making so early records. and there was

shouse]:

definitely a split.

shouse]:

You know. Um, and it's just cool and you like I love doing that. We' like all

shouse]:

the Beatles are still together. You know the Aden Road was coming out when

shouse]:

I'm

bowyer]:

yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

not. I'm not sure

svensson]:

Yeah.

shouse]:

what month. actually, ▁zepp. One two came out. Abbey Road. Iy, Rod was toward

shouse]:

the end of the year was in the winter. I think so.

svensson]:

yeah. okay. I think so. yeah,

shouse]:

um, but yeah, it's I. I love doing that like when you look at the history of

shouse]:

of, and you know what was going on

shouse]:

musically, politically and socially, I around a record 'cause you cant

shouse]:

isolate an album or a band, you know, and go like it. The whles couldn't get

shouse]:

signed today. That's the most asonine comment that anybody can make, Y. You

shouse]:

can't just

svensson]:

yeah, yeah.

shouse]:

remove

shouse]:

anything and place it in present time. You know it'sossible

svensson]:

Oh, it's It's

svensson]:

impossible. It's yeah, it

bowyer]:

right. yeah.

svensson]:

is. it is. but it still I I wonder what what people like the beatle

shouse]:

So it's always cool with.

svensson]:

thought about like Letd ▁zeppelin, when, if if they thought oh, w, like

svensson]:

like it was when when Paul and Jean heard Van Halen, Oh, it's game over

svensson]:

now

shouse]:

Yeah, I, I

svensson]:

whole lot of love.

shouse]:

wonder you know what. There's I got to listen to this. there is. Um.

shouse]:

there's a Youtube a clip of George Harrison, Um, and

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

I think it's during the Let It B

shouse]:

sessions.

svensson]:

oh,

shouse]:

I think it's

svensson]:

okay,

shouse]:

when they're filming the The movie and I, I think it's in there where it's

shouse]:

either. the ▁zeppelin, for Sean was the first Jeff Backack record.

shouse]:

I

shouse]:

can't think. I can't think of he wass making fun of it like. Oh, you heard

svensson]:

oh, okay, all right,

shouse]:

this or he? I can't think, but that I got to find it now, but they, they

shouse]:

weren't. I

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

mean, definitely aware of it and there's a photo of

shouse]:

I think Paul and Linda and David Gilmore at one of those famous uh ▁zeppel,

shouse]:

Earls Court shows in like

svensson]:

oh, okay,

shouse]:

seventy three, I think or seventy four. When they put

svensson]:

yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

Earlless Court. Those two they, they did several big big big shows there, So

shouse]:

yeah, they were all kind of aware and I, I. I. I got to go now and find that

shouse]:

because I'm not sure if George was digging it or if he was just like. Can you

svensson]:

I have to go there, too. I listened to it. Oh man,

shouse]:

believe this?

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

Yeah, it's pretty. it's pretty cool. but yeah, they were all aware they had

shouse]:

to be. You know, 'cause it was a big.

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

It was a big thing.

shouse]:

It was a big thing.

svensson]:

yeah, cause they. ha. it had to be something special even back then. I

svensson]:

mean to be to be able to to put that sound out there. I mean you think

svensson]:

you, when you hear a whole lot of lot for the first time, you had to be

svensson]:

as as a musician or as a teenage or like whoever. it must have struck a

svensson]:

accord with people.

shouse]:

Yeah, if you were in the recording business at all, you heard that it.

shouse]:

Probably because it. the you know, Jeckback truth was a big, was a big step

shouse]:

forward. And then you. The first ▁zeppel album was that had to be them That

shouse]:

took it that much further. And I think if you were in the business at all, it

shouse]:

was something to. and if you didn't like it or not, you realize that it was.

shouse]:

This is something that's going to stick around. You know this is going

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

to. It's going.

shouse]:

you know. this really heavy blues thing the Stones started, The Yard Bird

shouse]:

Star is going into this weird different direction that became heavy metal.

shouse]:

But was it called

shouse]:

heavy metal. Then you know.

bowyer]:

Yeah, yeah,

svensson]:

Oh man,

bowyer]:

I always say I was born like fifteen years too late, cause it would have been

bowyer]:

so awesome to see all these bands play live all these, you know, like I never

bowyer]:

got to see ▁zeppelin live or any of these bands, and E even ▁jimmy Hendrix, and

bowyer]:

all that it was just such a great time for music. So many different styles.

bowyer]:

Like you were saying, it was splittering off. and uh, it was just so awesome

bowyer]:

back then and

shouse]:

yeah, yeah,

bowyer]:

I miss that. I mean, E, even like ▁zeppliin, like ▁zepplin two. You popped that

bowyer]:

on today And it's

shouse]:

Mhm.

bowyer]:

It's so amazing and you' like Jesus Christ. This is so good. This is awesome.

shouse]:

It's so good. It's the riding and the and the care at which you can tell

shouse]:

everything was put. But then they were making records so fast

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

and that's what. It's just like. Wow, They weren't laboring over anything.

shouse]:

you know. they weren't uh. one of the one of the ones that was. That is one

shouse]:

of the ones that didn't make the thing it should have, but a machine had deep

shouse]:

purple machine head. Um, that's another one that you think that everything

shouse]:

just labored over, But no, they did it in like two weeks

shouse]:

writing and

bowyer]:

that's crazy.

svensson]:

it's not

shouse]:

recording like I had somee ideas. But they'd write in there then play it. And

shouse]:

recording like I had somee ideas. But they'd write in there then play it. And

shouse]:

and it doesnt make sense to me. it's like how can you be that gun and that

shouse]:

young and

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

and that proficient and just so quick, And you come up with the the right

shouse]:

part that quickly, Um, it. It was just

svensson]:

's crazy.

shouse]:

all you know, They, they cared a lot about it and they were they focused on

shouse]:

it. So, um,

shouse]:

a complete monacical focus on on a thing upon a project. and um, yeah, it's

shouse]:

just incredible when you think that how long it takes bands to do records

shouse]:

now, and it's like Oh, they were cranking ' out back then.

svensson]:

Wasn't it like forty eight hours for a Black Sabbot's first

svensson]:

album or something like that?

shouse]:

Give thirty six

svensson]:

Thirty

bowyer]:

jeez jeez,

bowyer]:

jeez jeez,

shouse]:

they. They just played it down. I think it was that and I think it was the

shouse]:

first Beatles Alt twelve.

bowyer]:

Jeez, Oh man.

shouse]:

They just played their set

shouse]:

and they did like, you know,

svensson]:

all the parts and all the harmonies and everything else? Ohe,

shouse]:

maybe one or two tapes of everything, and that was it, 'cause I mean they

shouse]:

were just so well rehearsed and fine tuned both of those bands when they

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

cut those. And yeah, yeah, Sabbots just went and played.

shouse]:

Yeah, I mean it' it's crazy.

svensson]:

twelve hours for Beatles.

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

Oh,

svensson]:

damn

shouse]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

okay. so Philip, we got number one. were up to number one. So what you

svensson]:

got for us?

shouse]:

it might be predictable, but it's Abbey Road.

svensson]:

Oh

bowyer]:

Okay,

svensson]:

cool.

shouse]:

It was

bowyer]:

there you go.

shouse]:

and that on on most days that you askedk me this question. That's going to be

shouse]:

my number one.

svensson]:

Yeah.

shouse]:

that's most consistently top.

bowyer]:

there you go.

svensson]:

So why is it number one?

shouse]:

um,

svensson]:

What's so special about it?

shouse]:

uh, it's I don't know. It's just it. It's kind of. it's the last one they did

shouse]:

together, Not the last one released. That's the last one they worked on

shouse]:

together. Um,

shouse]:

and it just it's also the first one they did with a solid state board,

shouse]:

Um. the mixing console, And you can really tell it's it is a lot cleaner.

shouse]:

Um, not, the other ones are filthy dirty sounding, law power or something,

shouse]:

but you know there is a difference like a start difference when you listen to

shouse]:

this one vers the other ones and I love all of them, but this one does. for

shouse]:

some reason, A and a and a again. When you still was on headphones, Um, and

shouse]:

the new

shouse]:

Atmos mixes,

shouse]:

that place, place everything like in height, and also like not left and

shouse]:

right, but it's around their fucking phenomenon and you listen

svensson]:

Yeah, Mhm,

svensson]:

Yeah, they are

shouse]:

to it in a whole new,

shouse]:

in a whole new light. And I mean Ive, I've listened to this thing thousands

shouse]:

of times. I know every single noise

shouse]:

that's in this record. I know every single background movies. it's in this

shouse]:

record. and listen to those Atmos mixes. I'm hearing you hear new stuff

shouse]:

and um,

shouse]:

it's I don't know. It's just one of those things. You you? You cannot skip

shouse]:

anything. Even Maxwell silver hammer. you can't skip. Um,

shouse]:

and uh it is. Everything just sounds just immaculate. It's just like

shouse]:

you know. it's just like the higher power of the Divine was just there and

shouse]:

everything. Talk about a perfect perfect record.

svensson]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

You know. that's just man. Humans shouldn't be able to make something that

shouse]:

good.

shouse]:

You know. it really doesn't make sense. and I again,

shouse]:

none of them were, Were, were thirty years old. At this point,

bowyer]:

Mhm,

svensson]:

Now it's crazy to think about nothing.

shouse]:

You know Ringo and John were were twenty nine.

svensson]:

Yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

Uh, and

svensson]:

it's nuts.

shouse]:

that I. I, it just doesn't make any sense. and uh that people can be that

shouse]:

proficient and like something like that when you get to the second side, not

shouse]:

not discounting anything from the first side, But when you get to the second

shouse]:

side and the The menty and the piecemeal medley, Um, you never give me your

shouse]:

money.

shouse]:

It is like five songs

shouse]:

and and I don't even know if it's two minutes, 'cause that's the become of

shouse]:

the beginning of the of the big medley.

svensson]:

Yeah,

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

That thing is just in incredible. It really is I, and you don't. everything

shouse]:

it. everything segu so well and I'm onlyu. I'm only talking about. You never

shouse]:

give me your money right now that one piece.

svensson]:

Mhm.

shouse]:

everything works so well when it goes from park to part top that you don't

shouse]:

realize it until you learn it and you're like. What the fuck?

shouse]:

It's just completely.

shouse]:

It's different songs.

shouse]:

It's it. it modulates keys and you don't even know it. And it it. that's just

shouse]:

a masterful thing. I don't even know. I don't even know how long time wise it

shouse]:

is, but it sets the

svensson]:

do.

shouse]:

whole. It sets the pace for the rest of the the record, and you know the Ra.

shouse]:

the rest of the medley, which is just unreal.

svensson]:

do you? Yeah?

bowyer]:

hm,

svensson]:

do you think that that's why musicians always have such high regards for

svensson]:

for the beatle,

svensson]:

especially for Abb Road. Do you think that's that's why?

shouse]:

I, I think so. I think it was a comulbination of uh, of everything with them,

shouse]:

and when you meet everything, I mean recording playing and writing,

svensson]:

Mhm?

shouse]:

Uh, and singing, you know, and then arranging to which was a lot. George

shouse]:

Martin was he was. he was. He was the fifth beatle When it came to all that

shouse]:

all that stuff,

svensson]:

genius

shouse]:

but you know the recording techniques I, I get. like I said earlier, people

shouse]:

liked to kinda poopoo the early period, but they

shouse]:

weree pushing boundaries from note one. Oh, please please me, and they didn't

shouse]:

stop and they always

shouse]:

were doing

shouse]:

pushing the guys. you know, the engineers at A at e m, I studios, which it

shouse]:

was called back then, were wearing lab coats. They were in white labcoats.

shouse]:

They were scientists

svensson]:

in the pictures. it's crazy.

shouse]:

and there were. they were very regimented on what they could do and they

shouse]:

didn't like anything that the Beatles were asking them to do and reluctantly

shouse]:

doing them. Um, and you know that that's stuff started early on with them.

shouse]:

they? they? they didn't wait until Rubber Soul to push boundaries. You know

shouse]:

they were pushing them the entire time. And they,

shouse]:

you know, in recording techniques and recording gear and outboard, Uh,

shouse]:

devices were being invented because of what the Beatles were asking those

shouse]:

engineers to do.

shouse]:

Um, and it's just whenning and again, like when they were doing that. they

svensson]:

Yeah, that's crazy.

shouse]:

were twenty.

shouse]:

Really,

svensson]:

Yeah, it was

shouse]:

I, I like in sixty in sixty three.

shouse]:

Um.

shouse]:

George was twenty years old and Paul was twenty one, and it just like when

shouse]:

you think about. I didn't time my shoes at that point, you know, I'm fairly

shouse]:

you. I. I just can't. i. I'm I'm

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

I'm rereading, Um, this book by Mark Lewisson, who was like the the Beatles

shouse]:

authored. This is part one of this trilogy

svensson]:

Mhm.

shouse]:

And it's about. it's called Tune in And it's It stops at sixty three

shouse]:

and it's a thousand

svensson]:

Okay

shouse]:

pages.

bowyer]:

Oh, wow,

shouse]:

And so I'm I'm rereading that.

svensson]:

man,

shouse]:

And And and it's just it's unbelievable. How like it's fun to read about when

shouse]:

they were forming and they were snot those asshole teenagers.

shouse]:

And you know, getting in fights and and rough. I mean, it had to be from

shouse]:

where they were from. but you you really

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

learn well how important Rirpool was

shouse]:

in

svensson]:

and

shouse]:

it. That was the fifth member of the of the band. you know, the

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

set the town they were from, Uh, when they were when they were forming. Um,

shouse]:

and it's so cool to to, you know how, they just kind of started writing songs

shouse]:

and were so confident And they

shouse]:

bands like that didn't exist when they were when they formed that band. It

shouse]:

was. you know, Rory, storming the Hurricanes, It was so and so in the so and

shouse]:

soes, you know it. it was Elvis. You know, it was a

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

guy and a backing band, You know a ban. It didn't exist, That had three sing,

shouse]:

and they wrote their own songs and then E. Even that was groundbaking. I

shouse]:

still think the Beatles are underrated.

shouse]:

I got. I.

bowyer]:

Wow,

shouse]:

They people don't really understand what really they did and how much they

shouse]:

changed the entire thing with every single record And

shouse]:

I guess I go with Abbey Roe, just because from it's personal favorite for me,

shouse]:

and just um, the sound of it is just incredible and it's very sparse. It's

shouse]:

not. It's not real layer, like they had done the tape loop thing and Pepper

shouse]:

is very busy and met Myy tour, super tripping and very busy, and the white

shouse]:

album was extremely like, you know, had some stuff like that, but really

shouse]:

really stripped down. They kind of went back to basics on that one a lot, and

shouse]:

recording lot on their own, and I think it came back as a unit even though

shouse]:

John Lennon was out for a bunch of this 'cause he was in a car accident, so

shouse]:

he missed a lot of the recording of this. Um, but it seems like they came

svensson]:

yeah. Mhm.

shouse]:

back to Abby Road to do one more really nice one 'cause they had already

shouse]:

done, Let him be and tried that and it. They hated it and then so they like

shouse]:

Let's do one more. And it is it does Does seem like everybody really put on

shouse]:

their you know a game face and and and and and really did A. A. A great. like

shouse]:

you know, ridiculous album that you know. And the cover

svensson]:

Yeah. Well, it is a great one. It's a classic.

shouse]:

is just fantasity, too. It renamed

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

the studio. You know, they renamed the

shouse]:

studio

bowyer]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

Yeah. yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

Abbey Road Studios, you know, it full F.

svensson]:

and yeah, you see there it came over.

shouse]:

They. really they have.

bowyer]:

yeah,

shouse]:

they renamed. They read it for the albumt, But yeah, it's just everything.

shouse]:

Everything about it's great. I want you see. So heavy is is Re is so

shouse]:

crushing. It's just one. a cool track that is, and it gets so at the ending

shouse]:

it just gets. so you know, chaotic and and uh and beautiful. It just yeah,

shouse]:

it's awesome.

svensson]:

Have you played all of those songs yourself?

shouse]:

Um,

shouse]:

not all of them.

shouse]:

I've played a lot of them. I never played Maxwell, Um played. I want you.

shouse]:

She's so heavy a lot. Actually, that's a fun one. Be covered. Um

shouse]:

sure comes. a. so,

shouse]:

um, Monica Wholeeen and I, She's my partner in the Beatles duo acoustic duo

shouse]:

that we have. We've toyed with the idea of doing the memo,

shouse]:

seeing if we can make it work for two people. We fucked around with it

shouse]:

before, and it's Ca. We. We've like made it through and it's pretty cool, so

shouse]:

we may try to work that up and and um and do something with it, but you know,

shouse]:

yeah, it's just a. It's a fun to play and it's a fun one to play all the

shouse]:

guitar parts and Mi the phone. When then to go on base. You know to learn

shouse]:

that stuff, toocause, you go. come together. Come together. has to be one of

shouse]:

the like greatest like R and B type rhythm

bowyer]:

Mhm, Mhm,

shouse]:

tracks ever. It is just completely nasty. I mean, they were a great R B mann.

shouse]:

They

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

really really were. And that's a prime example of of that Is that song so

shouse]:

dirty.

svensson]:

cool. all right, so

bowyer]:

time to do a Betles marathon. put all the Beatles

svensson]:

yeah,

bowyer]:

records on and just start from the beginning and go through it.

shouse]:

Yeah, exactly it. totally, you can be. That'd be great.

shouse]:

It's

bowyer]:

Mhm.

shouse]:

amazing and

svensson]:

that's cool.

shouse]:

then you, you look at it. It's like seven years.

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

All that happened in seven years,

svensson]:

Yeah, have seven years.

bowyer]:

that's crazy as crazy.

shouse]:

just amazing. And then they broke up when they were before they were thirty.

shouse]:

you know they was. They were done

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

as a band with a of a thirty. It's amazing.

svensson]:

but

bowyer]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

he, they' record an album in twelve hours, So seven years is a long

shouse]:

Yeah, I mean, that's just amazing and it's

svensson]:

time.

bowyer]:

Mhm.

shouse]:

funny when you start learning about Um, Rubber Soul and you start reading

shouse]:

about doing those records. And like you know, theyd have three weeks to do

shouse]:

that one and they and they were like, Oh, wow, we can do. We got some time,

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

you know, and Revolver was the first one that they really had

shouse]:

some time to do because they had. Uh.

shouse]:

They had had the first part of that year off is turnning into a fucking

shouse]:

Beatles episode That it happens with me.

shouse]:

They had the first part of Sixty six off, which had never happened before.

shouse]:

They were supposed to be their third movie.

shouse]:

Uh, and they didn't

svensson]:

okay, okay,

shouse]:

do. It fell through. And so they had time off for the first time since they

shouse]:

probably like started the ban.

shouse]:

And so that was when they started like Mccartney started going to art

shouse]:

galleries, start to gettingiv into like experimental tank loops and things

shouse]:

like that and George getting into Indian, you know they, they. They were all

shouse]:

kind of um able to go off and kind of try their own stuff. And so Revolver

shouse]:

was the first one and I think they had a little bit more time. They weren't

shouse]:

so pushed, but they didn't have to tour. But then they came back and then it

shouse]:

was redonturing and then you know, and then they started working on Pepper in

shouse]:

the late sixty six, like in December.

bowyer]:

H.

shouse]:

So and then they? yeah,

svensson]:

sixty six, it's crazy to think about.

bowyer]:

yeah,

shouse]:

yeah,

svensson]:

I mean all the music It's it's nuts.

svensson]:

I mean all the music It's it's nuts.

shouse]:

yeah, and then then when you go in sixty seven,

shouse]:

you know, Henrix's first album came out in sixty seven, So there was already

shouse]:

this big thing. The doors were already happening, you know I, saying the

shouse]:

California thing is is is well happening,

shouse]:

you know, And Motown is going on during this whole period. It stacks

shouse]:

everything and then they're You know. it's really fascinating when you start

shouse]:

looking at everything, you know. The Beatles weren't the only thing going on.

shouse]:

They may have been the biggest thing always going on, but

svensson]:

Yeah. no, no, yeah,

shouse]:

I mean, there was a lots of others stuff to get into, you know,

bowyer]:

Mhm.

bowyer]:

Yeah, that's

svensson]:

oh man,

bowyer]:

what makes us such a great time back then. Was

shouse]:

Mhm.

bowyer]:

there was so much going on?

shouse]:

And, and the rate at

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

which it was happening, the quick rate. it was. Just mind more when you look

shouse]:

at what was happening and how fast everybody was working. And you know

shouse]:

Hendrix was putting out, You know that one put a axfulol' love, and he was

shouse]:

just you know, on this rocket ship. you know,

bowyer]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

Um, and the Stones were about to put out some great records, you know, and

shouse]:

all this stuff And you know, the Sammoth ▁zeppeln, were about to come and

shouse]:

shake everything up. And yeah, it's It's pretty pretty incredible.

bowyer]:

that is.

svensson]:

oh man. that's a great list.

bowyer]:

it is a great list. Yeah,

svensson]:

so so we're gonna run it through once more. Uh, we started out with

svensson]:

Beatles, Robert Soul went into Airsmith Rocks, and then we got Van

svensson]:

Haleing, Withood one, and then we got ▁zeppling, too, and then we

svensson]:

wrapped it all up with Betles Abbey Road,

shouse]:

Mhm, Mhm,

bowyer]:

there you go.

svensson]:

and that's a great list.

shouse]:

Yeah, where the machine

bowyer]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

had is a kind of a

svensson]:

Yeah,

shouse]:

a

shouse]:

sidemo.

bowyer]:

There you go.

svensson]:

Ru up. Yeah,

shouse]:

It kind of a footnote on the list there, which you know that one was just

shouse]:

incredible too.

bowyer]:

Yeah,

svensson]:

cool.

bowyer]:

that's awesome.

shouse]:

again. That was hard to do. That was really really tough

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

to do. I think I probably got through with it today. like I,

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

I had three down. I like shtch my head going. Where am I going to go from

shouse]:

here? I can pick all

svensson]:

yeah.

shouse]:

beetles albums, but I don't want to do that

shouse]:

socause. You had a thin night space

svensson]:

it's sort of like you. You did make mixed tapes back in the day. which

svensson]:

one should be on there? Which if I give this this cassette over to to a

svensson]:

buddy of mine. Which songs do I want him to listen to and and support?

bowyer]:

Mhm,

svensson]:

Yeah, you had.

svensson]:

Yeah, you had.

shouse]:

with toeless. You can put. You can put as many on a playlist as you want.

shouse]:

Either. there is

svensson]:

Yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

no limit to

bowyer]:

Yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

space the storage now, but we had. we had a limit to storage. You know,

shouse]:

before

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

you had Bir, and even C Ds have limits.

bowyer]:

yeah,

shouse]:

You know,

svensson]:

it's crazy. Well, once again, Philip. thank you so much for being on our

svensson]:

show. It's always great to have you on.

shouse]:

any time, guys. I, I really had a good

svensson]:

And

shouse]:

time. Thank you,

svensson]:

yeah, but

bowyer]:

yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.

svensson]:

you're going out W, with Um, with Israeli and ▁l Cooper soon, right.

shouse]:

like three weeks. it's about to start now. Our first

svensson]:

Oh man,

shouse]:

show I think is mid September in New Hampshire, I think it September

shouse]:

eighteenth. Um,

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

and so yeah, it's uh, ever, Ba. As and uh, everything, as far as I know is

shouse]:

go, I've gotten nothing else like everybody's plann on and plan on being

shouse]:

safe. We. We're being regulated more about what we can do. but at

svensson]:

Mhm,

shouse]:

this point I would. I would open the show. so wearing a too, too. If it, if

shouse]:

it ins, everybody to be safe, and we, this whole tour,

svensson]:

yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

Um, oh five weeks tour, Um, we're just so excited to be able to do it, And

shouse]:

when I say we, I mean my entire touring family, Um, in the Alice camp, too,

shouse]:

uh, we're just thrilled. Um that it looks like it's going to happen and we're

shouse]:

just so excited to to get back out and get to work again. You know, so it's

shouse]:

we thrilled.

svensson]:

Alice Cooper and Na freele ban. All right.

shouse]:

What a great package. I mean.

shouse]:

seriously,

bowyer]:

yeah, yeah,

svensson]:

Oh man yeah,

shouse]:

that's a really really great bill. I would buy a ticket

svensson]:

yeah,

shouse]:

to that if I wasn't go to be there every night.

svensson]:

yeah, I, I would buy a ticket Two if I was seen the state.

svensson]:

Damn

shouse]:

So yeah, we're we're.

svensson]:

that. that's some great stuff.

shouse]:

We're all just thrilled about it So we we can't wait,

svensson]:

Yeah, cool. thank you

svensson]:

so much, Philip for taking a time once more. Uh, we had a Blas,

bowyer]:

awesome, thank you. Yeah,

shouse]:

Phil. Michael. Thank you, and you. Oh, always applies your head out any time.

svensson]:

all right, so shack out as freely on Alice Cooper on tour, and don't

svensson]:

forget to subscribe to the postcast and check us out on Sons on vinyl

svensson]:

dot com. Okay, in the last words, Phil

shouse]:

Nothing.

bowyer]:

later.

shouse]:

all. everybody stays

svensson]:

later,

shouse]:

safe and uh, stay

svensson]:

Yes, theyy safe, Yeah, yeah,

shouse]:

safe and have fun, and uh later together any.

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Sounds On Vinyl
Mike Svensson, the lead singer of the bands Grand Rezerva, Dead Anarchy & Solid Rust and Phil Bowyer, co-founder of BoozeHound Entertainment talk about collecting and listening to vinyl records. Intro and Outro music by Grand Rezerva (http://grandrezerva.com).
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